The Rabbi-Disciple Relationship: Part 2

During Christ’s time on earth, becoming a disciple was no small deal. It involved a rigorous process, and most never made it.

 

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Jeff Cavins

Jeff Cavins is the director of the Archbishop Harry J. Flynn Catechetical Institute in St. Paul, Minnesota. Over the past several years, he has dedicated his life to developing The Great Adventure, a practical, interactive Bible study system that enables students to understand the chronological flow of Sacred Scripture. Jeff holds an MA in theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville. He resides with his wife, Emily, and their three daughters in Minnesota.

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  • Jody

    Very interesting talk! It is very important to study and know God’s word, but then to actually apply it to my life and make right choices. It takes spending time everyday with Jesus, listening to that still small voice that tells me to do something, and then actually following through. Yes, there are roadblocks, it is hard, I fall, but so worth it in the end to keep getting up and being a follower, not just a fan.

  • pnkyB4brain

    I often wonder how I would have reacted to Jesus back when He was ministering to the people. I honestly think that I would have become a follower because I would have actually seen a live person. (I am so much like Thomas, the apostle.)
    Coming back to the future in my mind, I often wonder how my faith is just a word, not an action, not a way of life, and certainly not the way the Lord would have me think. With my imaginary mirror in my hand I am looking at my innermost reflection and am becoming brutally honest with myself in the way I perceive my faith. As I said yesterday, this is where “construction in progress” begins. I think I need to demolish the structure and rebuild this part of me brick by brick. With this in mind I must rethink how much trust I place in the Lord. Instead of taking that power back so many times during the day, I must begin to acquiesce God’s love for me for His love is a true love and allow His will, not mine.
    With this second lecture in this series, Jeff’s talk has opened the floodgates of my mind and has brought me face to face with how I perceive my relationship with the Lord. “Behold, thou desires truth in the inward being; therefore teach me wisdom in my secret heart.”. Psalm 51:6

  • Sheri

    Jeff, I am already loving this series. Thank you. Question: do we have any idea who Jesus studied under to become a Rabbi? Did Jesus “break away from” his Rabbi-Mentor? Can you direct me to something you may have written that gives me some incite. Thanks!

  • Nanette kowalczyk

    Makes the finding Jesus in the temple mystery of the rosary come alive! Now the questions is do I have what it takes, do I think like he does, have I studied enough, do I have a heart like Christ. Not without his help.

  • pnkyB4brain

    You are so right. It is hard and it’s so worth it in the end to be a follower of Christ, not a fan.

  • DebraL

    This reminds me so much of Confirmation. How I pray to be that lamp on top the lamp stand. But like pnkyB4brain says construction in progress so much to learn and do. Some decisions are very hard to make and stick to, but with God’s help I CAN DO IT. THANK YOU LORD

  • donna g

    Loved the history you shared about becoming a disciple! I couldn’t help but smile when you explained, Jesus chose the ones doing their trade as they hadn’t been chosen to be a disciple of a great Rabbi. That didn’t surprise me. I have been on this journey of learning to be his disciple for many, many years beginning by learning & memorizing the catechism as a child. As an adult reading, learning about & meditating on the scruptures.Today’s reading from St. Paul opened my eyes as he reminded us that nothing can seperate us from the love of God in Christ. As I reflected on all the things that have tried to seperate me from him, I knew I had conquered through Jesus who loves me beyond my comprehension. Even as I wanted to sit & silently soak that in, I was like a runner in the blocks who jumps out of the blocks before the gun goes off…I know the runner who has confidence in his training & waits for the signal is more likely to win the race. I lack that discipline at times to wait in silence and allow Jesus to teach me all he wants me to learn before I act. I am so thankful he hasn’t given up on me.

  • Christine Dorothy

    Does a Rabbi teach full time? I’m wondering if Jesus was a carpenter just like St Joseph. And another question I have in mind, if a Rabbi choose the disciple because he sees the disciple can take on his world view, it makes me wonder who was the Rabbi that Jesus learnt under…

  • Andy

    Being a disciple is so important in the Christian life. We must imitate Him in everything, even to our death. May He give us the grace.

  • http://www.facebook.com/daptak Debbie Ptak

    I loved your talk today Jeff thank You.but im kind of of dissapointed (not that this series is about me)but i left a post on site of part one of this series that really came from my heart asking for all your prayers and my dissapointment with myself with my spirtual life.my post is no longer up there and no comment or encouragement from anyone in my strugle. i thought we where suppossed to encourage and help each other in our walk with the Jesus?Sorry i bothered you guys But thank you for the series Jeff .God Bless You Debbie Ptak

  • Maranatha

    Frankly, I think that Jeff should not be putting labels on people who don!t measure up to his image of a disciple.

  • Alan

    never looked at the ‘finding of Jesus at age 12 in this light, gives it a totally different understanding ……really benefiting through the series.

  • Natalia

    “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘Whoever wishes to come after me must deny
    himself, take up his cross, and follow me’.” (Matthew 16:24)

    *A readiness to follow Jesus even to
    giving up one’s life for him is the condition for true discipleship; this will
    be repaid by him at the final judgment. (*note on above verse, USCCB Matthew 16 http://old.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew16.htm)

    Hi Maranatha,

    Jesus himself calls humanity to be followers (not fans). Jeff, Ascension Press, and so many others, are our modern-day ‘rabbi-mentors’ who simply use their God-given gifts to help us along our way. We all need direction, a compass, and feel grateful for this Year of Faith, all the teachings, listening to insights, becoming more like Christ. I haven’t arrived, and ‘irons (do) sharpen irons’ — we need each other.

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of
    heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’ Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers. Everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a
    wise man who built his house on rock’.” (Matthew 7:21-24)
    Again, I am eternally grateful for God’s provision of mentorship. I don’t want to ‘miss the boat’. I want to become as mature as possible, and I want to make it Home, and help others do the same–we cannot do this alone. We’re in this together.
    Happy All Saints Day.
    Peace

  • Lisa

    Jesus learned from Mary and while He never broke away from her, rather she now leads us to Him :) In the Bible where she tells the servants at the wedding in Cana, “Do whatever He tells you” and it’s still the advice she gives us today.

  • Anne

    Debbie, I am sorry for you pain and dissapointment, I will say a prayer for you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/daptak Debbie Ptak

    Thank you sooo much ann.I really appreciate it. How Kind of you.i can really use the prayers i will pray for you too again thank you.I really love Jesus i want to follow Him ,I start out with the best intentions and then boom I fail again.I get so frustrated with myself.God Bless you debbie.